During Obama’s health care speech to congress he was told that what he said was a lie; that he was a liar when he said that Illegal Aliens would not be covered by his health care plan. Although the congressman was right, I found it very inappropriate to call the President a liar while he was making an address to the congress and the people.
But the fact of the matter is that he is either lying about illegals not getting health insurance, or he is lying about there being 46 million Americans who need health insurance, because of that 46 million, 8 to 10 million of them are illegal aliens. So which is it Mr. President? Which one is a lie?
jbranstetter04
Health Care Reform Bills Would Not Verify Citizenship Status of Beneficiaries
The health care reform bills Congress is considering would not require people who sign up for government health care programs to verify their eligibility. That opens the door for millions of illegal aliens and other non-citizens to receive medical services paid for by taxpayers, a panel of experts from the conservative Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) and The Heritage Foundation said Wednesday.
This takes an unprecedented step in opening up the U.S. welfare system to illegal immigrants, Robert Rector, senior fellow on domestic policy at The Heritage Foundation, told an audience at the National Press Club in Washington.
We have had a system of identity checks that largely prevents adult illegal immigrants from getting onto these means-tested welfare programs, Rector added.
Title II, Subtitle C, Section 246 of the House health care bill (H.R. 3200) stipulates no federal payment for undocumented aliens. The Senate bill states that beneficiaries of federal health care programs must be a citizen or national or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States.
But neither bill has a provision for verifying citizenship status, according to these experts.
Rector said people signing up for government-run health care programs would not have to substantiate that they are in this country legally. The health care reform legislation turns that on its back and tramples it into the dust, Rector said. It basically says, We will not verify, we will not check, we have a complete open door for every illegal immigrant, current and in the future, to simply enroll and receive benefits under this program.
They make it easy to enroll new people in government-run health programs with what amounts to built-in willful ignorance about characteristics which would be disqualifying, such as being here on a temporary VISA or being under ones sponsorship requirements, or being here illegally, Edwards added.
Citizen verification amendments defeated
Edwards said two amendments proposed in the House to require verification of citizenship and other qualifications were voted down and that Senate legislation also lacks any kind of verification provision.
Congressman Dean Heller (R-Nev.) offered an amendment in the Ways and Means Committee to correct that, but it was defeated along party lines, Edwards said. Senate legislation omits the same eligibility verification requirements that would ensure that only lawful immigrants and U.S. citizens benefit under these programs.”
Edwards noted that during the House Energy and Commerce Committees markup, Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.) offered an amendment that would require a check on immigration and citizenship status of those being signed up for Medicaid. It would apply the same verification standards and use the same existing verification system thats in the Medicaid statute. This taxpayer protection amendment lost on a largely party line vote, by a single vote, Edwards said.
Aliens exempt from fines
The Senate Finance Committee has released only an outline of its health care plan — not a full draft — and that outline penalizes U.S. citizens and legal residents while allowing illegal aliens access to free health care, Edwards said.
The Finance Committee outline, like the HELP and the House bills, mandates that individuals must carry health insurance or else face a fine, Edwards said. The Finance outline says that illegal aliens will be exempt from that individual mandate. It sets up a system where youve got Americans and legal immigrants who have to have coverage or else pay a fine, Edwards said. But illegal aliens would escape the mandate and any fine for not being insured.
It appears that this sets up for illegal aliens to be free riders of sorts, Edwards said. They still receive taxpayer-funded medical services at health clinics and hospitals required to serve those (with) a medical emergency. Yet illegal aliens would be free from any responsibility or sanction that other people would bear.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52765
Antony Jacob interview on NDTV on how to increase number of insured people in India…????
Antony Jacob, CEO—Apollo Munich, announced that there is 75% of people paying out medical treatment expenses from their pockets, which is perhaps the maximum in the world. As per him, every health insurance company faces the same issue that people in India are unaware of health insurance and the foremost reason is that health insurance is a unprofitable sector and the number of insured people are those who have either faced urgent needs of health insurance themselves or their family member. So, these are the individuals who are purchasing health insurance but it has resulted in high frequency and high cost. Thus, it is becoming unprofitable for health insurance.
As per Antony Jacob, the number of insured people should be a mix of both, healthy and unhealthy people to make it bigger and broader. Thus, there is much improvement to be made in this field.
Apollo Munich has entered into health insurance as a pure health insurance company and he believes that all associated bodies should play an active role in spreading awareness. Regulation should invite more players to focus on this sector, so that they can work morning and evening to encourage people to buy health insurance. It will help to design products, as per the needs of customers, thus contributing towards insurance sector. So, there is a significant role for the regulator to play in terms of formulating rules and regulation, entries and barriers for health insurance. It is to ensure that right players enter the market. Similarly, there is a role for Government to play to spread health awareness and healthcare costs so that people understand that financing through insurance is absolutely a necessity.
Mr. Antony Jacob further said that Apollo Munich has a big role to play in terms of adverting, product innovation and service offerings. Likewise, a big role is to be played by health care providers in terms of standardization of rates and processes. It is the matter of increasing 150 million, pupation to 400 million. There are many government programmes, such as RSBY and they are doing a great job. Private sector has encouraged new entries like Apollo Munich as standalone licensed player.
Antony Jacob, CEO, Apollo Munich Health Insurance Company Ltd.
The President reveals his bold plans for better health care ! — $ $ $ — |
In his first address to a joint session of Congress, President Obama told the American people that the “day of reckoning” has arrived for the nation’s economy, which he pledged to not just fix but make stronger than it was before the current crisis.
“Now is the time to act boldly and wisely — to not only revive this economy, but to build a new foundation for lasting prosperity,” the president said in his televised prime-time address.
Obama was greeted with thunderous applause in the House chamber, as lawmakers reached out to try and get a handshake or, in some cases, a kiss as the president made his way down the narrow aisle to the podium.
Obama is enjoying a 68 percent approval rating after his first month in office, according to the latest ABC News-Washington Post poll, and his pledge to reverse the nation’s economic woes earned him an early standing ovation from both Democrats and Republicans.
“While our economy may be weakened and our confidence shaken; though we are living through difficult and uncertain times, tonight I want every American to know this: We will rebuild, we will recover, and the United States of America will emerge stronger than before,” Obama said.
Obama laid out proposals in energy, health care and education policy that he said would help everyday Americans struggling with rising costs and would be long-term investments toward economic recovery.
A healthcare solution for America as explained by L. Monty Slim’s corporate advisor and pet Monkey in support of the Republican platform’s political vision explained in first hand, real personal story…think.
Moments after President Obama’s health care reform address to Congress, Bill O’Reilly and Karl Rove react. here, they debate Obama’s reference to him saying death panels are “a lie, plain and simple.”
In the next segment, White House senior advisor David Axelrod responds to Rove’s comments, and mentions that Sarah Palin is the one who coined the term “death panel” and then called her a hypocrite because she has backed off of the idea. O’Reilly responds by calling the death panel “a dopey idea.”
At a speech on July 20, President Obama responded to Sen. Jim DeMint saying his healthcare plan will be his “waterloo” and “break him” if defeated.
“This isn’t about me,” Obama said. “This isn’t about politics… This is about a healthcare system that is breaking America’s families…. businesses and… economy.”
This is the VOA Special English Economics Report, from http://voaspecialenglish.com
A major reform of the American system of health care and insurance has moved farther in Congress than ever before. President Obama wants a final bill passed by the end of the year. But a difficult road still lies ahead.
On November seventh, the House of Representatives passed a bill with an estimated trillion-dollar price over ten years. The president called the vote historic. President Obama said the Affordable Health Care for America Act will provide stability and security for Americans who have insurance. It will provide quality affordable options for those who dont. And it will bring down the cost of health care for families, business and the government while strengthening the financial health of Medicare.
But thirty-nine Democrats voted no, and only one Republican, Joseph Cao of Louisiana, voted yes. The bill passed with just two more votes than required. Republicans say the plan would add to the nation’s debt, raise insurance costs and expand government involvement in health care.
Republican Representative Joe Barton from Texas said: “So, there is a choice. Bigger government, more mandates, more control, less freedom. Or lower costs, more opportunity, more freedom or more choice. I vote for more freedom.”
The bill aims to provide health coverage to thirty-six million Americans. That would raise the nation’s coverage rate to about ninety-six percent.
The most disputed part of the bill is a “public option” for individuals and small businesses. The government would compete with private plans by offering its own insurance — based on payment rates negotiated with providers.
The House bill would raise taxes on high earners to help pay for the plan. It would also cut four hundred billion dollars from health programs for the retired and poor — money that supporters of the bill say is now being wasted.
Most Americans would have to buy insurance or pay a fine; the government would help the needy. All but the smallest businesses would have to offer insurance for their workers or pay a tax. Some small businesses could receive tax credits to help with their costs. Insurance companies could not deny or cancel coverage for people with pre-existing conditions. And the industry would lose its protection from anti-competitive laws.
And that’s the VOA Special English Economics Report. You can read more about the health care debate at voaspecialenglish.com.
(Adapted from a radio program broadcast 13Nov2009)
President Obama left the Cleveland area and an afternoon of health care reform events for two Democratic National Committee fundraisers in Chicago, where he struck a defensive and at times defiant tone about his top priority.
After touching down in his home city for the first time in more than five months, Obama first attended a $15,200-a-person dinner at the Lincoln Park home his campaign fundraiser Penny Pritzker, where he took a shot at the media for what he deemed its “lack of sustained focus on the facts” concerning health care reform, which he said “makes it very difficult” for him.
Then he moved on to an event at the Hyatt Regency, where he defiantly told a crowd of about 750 donors, “We are going to pass health care reform in 2009.”
And he used the backdrop of the street-fighter politics that define his home city to fire back at his Republican critics one of whom, Sen. Jim DeMint, he said has told the GOP that defeating health care reform would break Obama.
Let me tell you something,” Obama said. “I’m from Chicago. I don’t break.”
Obama tried to put the best face on the setback to his reform plans he was dealt Thursday, when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s announcement Thursday “So even though we still have a few issues to work out, what’s remarkable about this point is not how far we have left to go, it’s how far we’ve already come.”
“I understand how easy it is for folks in Washington to become consumed by the game of politics.”
He did his fair share of criticizing Washington and “the status quo” on health care, and declared the country to be “at an unmistakable crossroad.”
“There’s some in Washington who want us to go down the path that we’ve already traveled for the last decade or so,” Obama said, “the path where we just throw up our hands and say, ‘Oh this is just too tough.’”
Earlier Obama worked a room of over 100 people and posed for pictures at Pritzker’s home, where guests nibbled on gazpacho shooters and watermelon salad.
He told the donors that opposition to his health care reform bill health care bill “gets on my nerves. It frustrates me that we’d even be suggesting the status quo is the best we can do.”
He also praised his administration, saying that it had “reset relations not just with Russia” but with the world.
“Anti-Americanism is no longer fashionable,” he said.
He made similar statements at the Hyatt fundraiser, where he also credited his administration with being able to “pull the economy back from the brink.”
The Hyatt event was billed as a “Welcome Home” reception, where Obama met the coach and quarterback of the Chicago Bears — Lovie Smith and Jay Cutler — as well as retired Chicago Bulls point guard, B.J. Armstrong, and Tracy McGrady of the Houston Rockets.
“I’m honored to be a part of the welcoming group to welcome home my favorite son,” Smith told the crowd. “I have the audacity of hope that the Chicago Bears will some day be visiting the White House giving the president a Chicago Bears football to toss around on the South Lawn.”
Obama was basking in a sports glow after his favorite baseball team pitched a perfect game, and said somebody asked him which was a bigger deal: the White Sox’s perfect game or the DOW going over 9,000.
“And I said I promise you, I promise you, a perfect game,” Obama said, “That’s big.”
The president wrapped himself in the hometown welcome. Some of the first words he spoke during remarks at the Hyatt were, “It’s good to be home.”
“It has now been six months since Michelle and Sasha and Malia and Marian Robinson, my mother-in-law, said goodbye and moved into a nice little spot in Washington D.C.,” Obama said. “And we arrived there at an incredibly difficult moment in this country’s history.”
At one point in his remarks a woman yelled, “Give ‘em hell, Barack.”
Obama reiterated his pitch that “health insurance reform” is not just about the uninsured — although he said helping them is “a moral imperative” — but about lowering costs and increasing quality for Americans who have coverage.
The two events are expected to raise as much as $3 million for the DNC.
The first link is a story about how CBS forced McCain to pull his ad down because they were misleadingly using Katie Couric’s statement.
OH SNAP!!!
The second link is Huckabee saying it was just a phrase and he felt Obama meant nothing by it… the third is a link to John McCain using the phrase YET AGAIN himself!
He has become a little absent-minded. Please forgive him.
John McCain surely forgets a lot. I think he’s getting quite old now. And of course when that happens you start to forget things. You know.
I guess he was FOR using the ‘lipstick on a pig’ phrase BEFORE he was AGAINST it – when using it on Hillary’s plan for healthcare.
If there is anything that is evidence that John McCain is JUST PLAIN LYING about working constructively across the aisle, this in fact is it. He is criticizing in a personal way, directly, Hillary Clinton’s attempt to put together a health care plan for Americans.
I guess he was FOR attacking others with good ideas BEFORE he was AGAINST it too.
John McCain & Sarah Palin. They say whatever comes into their heads (which is obviously not much.
In his first joint address to Congress, President Obama stated health care reform won’t wait another year. Join Obama in the fight for health care reform at http://www.healthcareforamericanow.org
Full transcript:
The cost of our health care has weighed down our economy and the conscience of our nation long enough.
This is a cost that now causes a bankruptcy in America every thirty seconds. By the end of the year, it could cause 1.5 million Americans to lose their homes. In the last eight years, premiums have grown four times faster than wages. And in each of these years, one million more Americans have lost their health insurance. It is one of the major reasons why small businesses close their doors and corporations ship jobs overseas. And its one of the largest and fastest-growing parts of our budget.
Given these facts, we can no longer afford to put health care reform on hold.
This budget…includes an historic commitment to comprehensive health care reform a down-payment on the principle that we must have quality, affordable health care for every American. Its a commitment thats paid for in part by efficiencies in our system that are long overdue. And its a step we must take if we hope to bring down our deficit in the years to come.
Now, there will be many different opinions and ideas about how to achieve reform, and that is why Im bringing together businesses and workers, doctors and health care providers, Democrats and Republicans to begin work on this issue next week.
I suffer no illusions that this will be an easy process. It will be hard. But…let there be no doubt: health care reform cannot wait, it must not wait, and it will not wait another year.